I don't mind ridiculously difficult games TOO much - but I do mind spending useless time like driving up to the same point for the 100th time or having to play through 80% of the mission again because I fucked up in the last 20%.

Btw, the FC2 console versions (Xbox360, PS3) are similarly f00ked with save points in 'safe houses' only. The PC version features a quicksave function, of course, apart from the safe houses. I can imagine that a lack of free saving in a game like FC2 with many long cross-map travels becomes a serious pain up the ole' butthole after a while...it leaves me wondering how retarded designers are that they think that "no free saving" works in a game of FC2's concept with little or no cutscenes and invisible barriers.

But meh, not our problem. Viva PC!

GTA4 will be available on steam, dated 3rd of december

I'm sure I'll shell out the bucks for a collector's edition. I've always gotten more than my money's worth from the GTA games.

I got the CE of Fallout 3 for the exact same reason. It was pretty good, too, with a rather expansive artwork booklet, a making of DVD and a bobblehead and 'Vault-tec' lunchbox.

I actually saw the 'ending' of GTA IV this week, walked in while my brother was doing the final mission. But I won't spoil it, don't worry.

Not sure how you'll dig the save points tho Satis...

Save points annoyed me in all the previous GTA games too. But it's worth it. Besides, maybe they finally fixed that for the PC version.

DLC for Feb.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6201417.html

Hahaha...yeah sure, and hell might freeze over.

Tbh tho, no matter how awesome GTA IV on a whole is (production is massive), I found myself not relating to any of the story characters apart from my own persona and one chick. And in the latter's case that probably was because her character was so flat that I just looked at her as a pretty face.

So the game has all kinds of random friends calling you to go out to eat or a comedy club or whatever. That's fun the first few times, but after a while you just stop caring and ignore their calls altogether if they're not offering you a cool mission. I mean seriously...this is GTA, not the sims. Upholding social relationships is hard enough as it is irl. So when the story unfolded and 'friends' are getting in trouble and/or killed I felt kinda...'meh'.

But maybe I'm just a sociopath. Oh, I did like one character named 'Brucie', in a strange roid monkey kind of way.

Brucie? Sounds gay?

And actually the social stuff sounds totally lame. The only way to pull that kind of stuff off is for some really good character development and believable personalities. Sounds like they didn't really do that.

Heh, he's not actually gay. Tho I suspect he is. You'll see what I mean.


Character development isn't BAD per se, it's just that the social stuff feels like a completely disconnected and redundant part of the game. You go out and see a cabaret/get a burger/play some pool/some bowling/go to a nudie bar/comedy club....and that's it. And EVERY FREAKING TIME you need to pick up your friends and drop them back off at home.

I didn't mind doing that with the girlfriends in-game cause that makes sense, going on dates and picking them up and dropping them off etc. But not with the dudes. It feels like I'm dating them.

http://www.incgamers.com/Games/2340/New ... uROM/14440


URL says it all Guess Steam will be the only way to go to avoid insane measures like this





Yeah...not cool. Not cool at all.

I read an article that said Securom and all that will be in the Stream version as well. Freakin' dipshits. Guess what... the game is already on torrents (no crack yet, though). So...

... do I shell out $80 for a collector's edition of a game that loaded down with a ton of spyware...

... or do I download a copy for free that has none of that crap in it?

Sounds like an interesting value proposition, Rockstar! WTF were you thinking?

Yeah, let's hope the news about the Steam version isn't as bad as that. Ah well. Lame ass.

They should be sued for failing to meet "presumption of innocence." Basically i am labelled as a pirate the moment i buy the game.

http://forums.gametrailers.com/?do=show ... &id=534007

Best avoid the game for a while.

Jesus Effing Christ!!


http://hellforge.gameriot.com/blogs/Ran ... on-Your-PC


[quote]Ok, I've been pretty lenient towards the online activation of PC games lately. If it means I get to play an awesome game, I'll put up with it, and have been urging people to do the same. But this may be because I've only come across good ones so far, like Dead Space, that checks the disc once for 2 seconds then never bothers you again.

Leave it up to good old Microsoft and Rockstar to spoil that run.

GTA IV for the PC has just taken anti-piracy protection to the next level. To demonstrate, here's a step by step process on how you can start - not play- the game:

Step 1: "Tut" loudly as you are forced to agree to be part of the Rockstar Social Club; a Gamespy type program that must be installed before you can install the game.

Step 2. Wait for it to validate your DVD. Begin to install the game. It comes on 2 DVDs, taking up 16GB's of space.

Step 3: Growl loudly when asked to make a Microsoft Live account. If you haven't done so, be prepared for an arduous task in itself. Begin to cry.

Step 4: Wipe tears of frustration from eyes. Unclench jaw. Finish installing the game.

Step 5: Start crying again when you realise you must now make a Rockstar Social Club account. Do so while chanting a mantra of harsh words (language choice is optional).

Step 6: Go to email account to find validation code. See no email. Break something within arms reach.

Step 7: Ask website to resubmit code. Eventually find it in the junk folder. Consider offering Satan your soul to end the pain. Click validation link.

Step 8: Choose whether to assign your Xbox, Play Station or PC Microsoft Live account to the Rockstar Social Club. Plot assassination of Microsoft Live creator. Choose account.

Step 9: Attempt to sign into account as requested. Check watch: it's dinner time... but didn't you just eat breakfast?

Step 10: Finally finish creating Rockstar Social Club account. Sigh with wary relief. Start Social Club program.

Step 11: Speak in tongues as the program updates. Make a pot plant spontaneously combust.

Step 12: Rejoice as a big splash page with the word "Play!" appears. Click it with tired optimism.

Step 13: Bash head against keyboard repeatedly after seeing message stating "Please install the new Windows Live Update". Feel the beginnings of an ulcer forming.

Step 14: 22MB later, install update. Rock back in forth in your chair while attempting the "Play" button again.

Step 15: It works! Hooray! ....right? WRONG. Activate the game again by entering the code on your manual. Wait for it to su****iously validate you. Feel slightly violated when it finally gives you the OK and starts the game.

Step 16: Begin to worry when black screen lasts 5 minutes. Alt + tab a few times. Remove fingernails from fingers due to over ambitious biting.

Step 17: Menu words! At last! Proceed to graphics options.

Step 18: Consider hiring Chuck Norris to roundhouse kick Rockstar when they tell you “You can not set the graphics higher as your system lacks resourcesâ€