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RB
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Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2003 1:25 am Posts: 2560
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A jump from 10000 meters into the ocean guarantees you the damn same. Nobody will even bother to search for you! Just... the spot would be miraculous.
Still... just in case. Take a cyanide pill with.
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:43 am |
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Rinox
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Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:23 am Posts: 14892 Location: behind a good glass of Duvel
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Well, that would guarantee me dying from smashing into the water surface at that speed, but I wouldn't see a supermassive black hole center now would I?
And if it's all the same I would prefer to live for now. Kinda. 
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:47 am |
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Satis
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Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16703 Location: On a slope
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Regarding earth's core, black holes are still subject to gravitational effects. It'd just get pulled 'down' like anything else. But since it's a black hole it's not like it's going to stop falling when it hits the ground or something. At least that's my understanding.
And time gets screwed up as you approach a singularity, so who knows what it would really be like if you ended up falling into a black hole.
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:32 am |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16703 Location: On a slope
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Verizon technician makes $220,000 worth of phone sex calls using customers' phones.
http://wcbstv.com/watercooler/phone.sex ... 13865.html
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:37 pm |
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Rinox
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But that's only for outside observers...time is still normal IN the black hole. In as far as you could say being in a black hole is normal, of course.  Anyway, i'll send you a postcard once I get there.
I hate those standarized postcard blurbs.
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:15 am |
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RB
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Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2003 1:25 am Posts: 2560
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You just hope it would ever reach Satis. The chances are Satis would reach it at some point. 
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:25 am |
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Rinox
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Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:23 am Posts: 14892 Location: behind a good glass of Duvel
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Touché 
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:06 am |
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RB
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Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2003 1:25 am Posts: 2560
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Alright, now I had time to give it a thought and here's my few cents. Lets assume the BH (not Büstenhalter ihr pervs!) ain't going to 'die' but to eat the Earth. At first it is going to start 'falling' - actually going to reach the Earth's centroid (mass center, not geometrical center), and thereby it would make a small and a very sucky crater. Since it would still tend to suck the constant amount of mass on all its sides, I guess soon after it started to make the crater there wouldn't be air around and LHC, its personell and all surroundings will be next. They would disappear first while BH still 'falls down'.
But here comes the new part: BH sucks the Earth and thus reduce its mass asymmetrically. The Earth's centroid 'runs away' from the BH and BH starts to accelerate (perhaps logarithmically).
At certain point BH's mass would overcome Earth's mass and the things will slightly change. BH's acceleration will go negative, it will start to slow down, while the Earth remaining's centroid will start to speed up to the BH. This part would cause terrible earthquakes and disasters on the Earth's side opposite to LHC - but this part of the Earth would most likely stand last. Europe would have been gone long before this. *edit* I forgot, they would possibly die from oxygen lack before the final end, or even Sun would burn them because BH would suck the atmosphere too via the initial crater.
Observed from the space, it would look like Earth has gotten a small dot that eats it easily and with exponentially rising huger. It would look like blown ball that eats itself till it disappears as if it all was just a magical trick. And yes, even with smallest BH it could take just hours or even minutes.
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Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:40 am |
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RB
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Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2003 1:25 am Posts: 2560
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^^ don't forget the stuff from above.
Some more details about the moment of BH's slowdown. It would probably happen in the moment BH reach the outer core. It is a liquid layer, which is "enough liquid" to support the following:
In that moment, the Earth would split in three parts:
* Its inner core, which would start to act as an independent body even before BH reach the outer core. Once it hits BH, BH's power will grow ... enormously, in comparison to the state before.
* Its outer core, which would start being sucked rapidly once BH reach it, leaving the inner core in an empty space: actually, the rest of the Earth would most probably start 'falling down' to fill out the emptiness that would occur and to answer to the gravity's call while BH and inner core become one. In the moment the rest get split from the core (outer + inner), its centroid will rapidly move from the BH, which would only cause it speed up towards BH.
* The rest of the Earth, which would suffer big catastrophes, manifesting as huge (huge is a kinda tiny word here) earthquakes, sudden and huge rise of ocean level (possibly flowing everything) etc. And that's not all. By sucking the atmosphere, BH would cause quite strong winds, hurricanes, tornadoes and all sorts of stuff in the atmosphere. Don't forget that when it suck enough you'll be in lack of oxygen and most probably exposed to the full power Sun rays.
In overall you would not want to be there when it happens. You would most probably wish you was eaten before all this happened, like Europe would have been (lucky suckers!  ). The ocean thing may be excluded in case BH sucked enough water via the initial crater before it hit the outer core.
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Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:10 am |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16703 Location: On a slope
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a lot of that would depend on how fast the black hole actually devours matter. There's also the fact that as thing fall into the black hole, they'd be shedding a lot of energy in the form of heat. As more and more matter collides against each other falling into the BH at high speeds, the temperature at the event horizon would get insanely high, up to the point it would probably set the (remaining) atmosphere on fire. 
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Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:32 am |
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RB
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Oh, I expect BH to eat things pretty fast and to make an exponential progress too. But err.. are you saying BH would heat something? Heating / warming is giving out the energy and BH doesn't do that, just the opposite. I'd say it would be going to cool everything around it, before swallowing (like that matters to the living people anyway, eh). I'd say too, if there is chance for it to be hot, then it is while it is a tiny thing, if that makes any sense to anyone.
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Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:51 am |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16703 Location: On a slope
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well, the black hole itself doesn't heat anything. However, it's pulling in all this matter which accelerates and compresses as it approaches the black hole, thereby giving off thermal energy.
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Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:07 pm |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16703 Location: On a slope
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well, I found this funny. Then again, I'm a geek

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Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:35 am |
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suga
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Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:08 am Posts: 1012 Location: Australia!!! (country of coolness)
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Bwehehe. Yeah, that one made me lol. 
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Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:51 am |
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RB
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Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2003 1:25 am Posts: 2560
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Only in the end.  "The last word kills".
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