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Author:  pevil [ Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:26 pm ]
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Ok quick query here guys.

Basically, reformatted a week ago. Previous to the format, I had two hdds, one nice shiny 120gb one, and my old 60gb one. Wanting to format, I put all the backup stuff on the 60gb one to save having to wait hours for it to burn to 3000000 dvds (ok exagerration there ;)). I also disconnected it from the pc coz knowing me, i woulda reformatted that one by accident and had to kill someone *looks at Mole*.

Anyhoo did the format fine etc, then tried to put the second hdd in. Now, when I do this, it won't go past the main mobo screen. So took it out, tried a few more times, same problem. Checked on the 'net, they claim it should let me go to BIOS and autodetect or manually input the parameters for the new drive etc. It won't let me into BIOS. on my pc you have to press Del to get to the BIOS on the screen just after the main mobo screen.

Sooooo what I'm thinking is, I'm gonna have to do another format, but with them both connected and obviously only format the larger drive. Not a huge problem; I know what drivers I need to download now, got all my discs here and I've not put much on this pc (just Horizons which is a bugger to download but isn't something I mind doing again). Just want to know if there's a way to sort this without having to bugger around with another format.
Author:  Mole [ Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:01 pm ]
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I know i could just walk around the corner but...

Does the PC boot at all? Or just hang?

If it boots, can you get in to Safemode? Maybe you could do a shitty-within windows format from there?
Author:  pevil [ Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:26 am ]
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since I can't get to BIOS coz it won't go to the next screen... *slaps Mole* lazy git lol.

someone who actually knows something post! ;)
Author:  Satis [ Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:54 am ]
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By main mobo screen I assume you mean the splash screen with ASUS or whatever on it, right? Usually this is hiding the REAL bootup screen... on my pc you have to hit tab or esc or something to make it go away. I'd try that first to see if you can get a meaningful message regarding your pc failing to boot.

A drive not being formatted, or needing to be formatted, shouldn't keep your pc from booting. At least not at the point you're talking about. The worst that should happen is it hangs trying to load the O/S.

My guess is you connected something improperly. With the size of the drives I'm guessing their PATA drives, right? Make sure your IDE cable is on the pins right and make sure you have the right master-slave settings set. I've had very similar behavior when I'd improperly set the jumpers. If it's SATA never mind... you have to be retarded and gifted to hook those up wrong.

Anyway, that's my 2c.
Author:  pevil [ Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:54 am ]
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hehe ok I'll give that a go. That is the screen I mean, will try tab/esc.

I know its connected correctly; I deliberately left it so that the cables I disconnected were obvious. The old one is indeed a PATA, the new one (120gb) is actually a SATA one.

Will give it a go tomorrow evening then again (maybe tonight if I get bored)
Author:  Mole [ Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:09 pm ]
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Yeah but you have to make sure the red line on the serial connection is in the right place.

Thought I think your connectors are toothed so it can only go in one way.
Author:  pevil [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:20 pm ]
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lol stop wasting posts and come here to say it! *pokes* thats it, you're helping tomorrow. though yes, they only go in one way and I did check all that thanks :P hehe.

I tried earlier btw on a boot up, pressing Tab shows me whats actually going on so I'll give it a go tomorrow and try pressing Tab when it hangs; might allow me to go into BIOS from that screen hopefully
Author:  Satis [ Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:26 pm ]
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any luck? Beware that I have managed to put a PATA cable on wrong... I was over a whole set of pins, caused all kinds of mischief. That's despite the fact it's keyed. So just make sure it fully connected. Also make sure you didn't accidently pull the cable part way off of the motherboard or something.
Author:  Mole [ Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:17 pm ]
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She got it to work - by rebooting until it did, I believe!
Author:  Satis [ Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:09 pm ]
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the remedy of the computer challenged... turn it off and on until it either works or stops working altogether. :roll:
Author:  Mole [ Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:14 am ]
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lol, there may have been more to it than that, but hey ;) If it worked it worked :D

Makes me wonder what was wrong though. If I'm not mistaken she cleared a load of at-start boots for a few progs, maybe that caused some issues?
Author:  pevil [ Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:00 pm ]
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The load-up processes had been cleared first time I tried it.

Nah basically did what you suggested, pressing tab to get into the 'proper' start up screen. This decided to simply restart my pc however (which when I'd tested it before with only the one hdd in, worked fine), so thought ok... tried it again, and this time when I pressed tab i got it to go to the proper screen. Anyhoo, it was detecting it all fine, was on all the proper settings automatically (used to have this pc on the same setup for a couple of years anyway) so restarted again... nothing... press tab... it restarts itself again... I think *gah* and go to get a drink... when I come back it had loaded and has loaded fine every time since.
Author:  Mole [ Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:44 pm ]
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The Super Ninja PC Repair Gnomes have been at it again!
Author:  Satis [ Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:16 pm ]
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ah well, so long as it continues to function that's all that matters. Keep your data backed up though, at least the stuff you care about. I wouldn't trust a box that acts squirrelly like that.
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