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Felix Rex  Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16701 Location: On a slope 
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  looks good to me. Far as I know, they're all the same size,
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| Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:47 pm |
 
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Minor Diety  Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:09 pm Posts: 4004 Location: Walsall, West Mids, UK
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Thats what I thought.
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| Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:50 pm |
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Minor Diety Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:09 pm Posts: 4004 Location: Walsall, West Mids, UK
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Whats the diference between Dual Rank, Single Rank and DIMM?
link to wtf i'm asking about 
Or more basically, if I wanted to get a 1 gig stick of ram would this be a sweet ass choice: Linky again _________________ Games to complete: GTA IV [100%] (For Multiplayer next!) Fallout 3 [50%] Rock Band [35%] http://www.cafepress.com/SmeepProducts |
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| Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:13 am |
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Felix Rex Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16701 Location: On a slope
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CL4!?
First, you question...dual rank, single rank, and DIMM. First...they're all DIMMs, which is Dual Inline Memory Module. Which basically means both sides of the memory stick are in use or some shit. Once upon a time there were SIMMS (Single Inline Memory Modules) which you had to pair off in order to work. IE, if you had a 128MB stick of RAM, you had to have two paired together. You couldn't pair unlike sticks. Anyway, that's long in the past. Dual and Single Rank...new to me. I did some googling (which, by the way, YOU CAN DO TOO)... http://www.valueram.com/memoryranks/default.asp
So...does it matter to you, NO! And, back to the first thing. CL4!!? Now, my memory may not be clocked at 533mhz, but it has a cas latency of 2. A cas latency of 4 is huge. Then again, I guess it's DDR2...I'm not sure what the average CAS latency of DDR2 is. Bleh. For best memory performance, shoot for a high clock speed and a low latency, then trade that off with price. _________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. |
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| Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:33 pm |
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Minor Diety Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:09 pm Posts: 4004 Location: Walsall, West Mids, UK
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Lol, I could google - but when you explain it, I tend to understand it better.
So I need to check about for other DDR2's to see if I can find a lower CL number... This one better? _________________ Games to complete: GTA IV [100%] (For Multiplayer next!) Fallout 3 [50%] Rock Band [35%] http://www.cafepress.com/SmeepProducts |
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| Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:52 pm |
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Felix Rex Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16701 Location: On a slope
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well, that one has a cas latency of 3, but is only clocked at 400mhz.
So...what's better... 533mhz with latency of 4 or 400mhz with latench of 3 beats the shit out of me. Err...the one you linked is a SO-DIMM, though, which is laptop memory I believe. See how short it is? That's not gonna work on a desktop too well.  _________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. |
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| Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:22 pm |
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Minor Diety Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:09 pm Posts: 4004 Location: Walsall, West Mids, UK
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Lol, the one time I didn't look at the picture...
Well, that was the only one that I could find that wasn't CL4... _________________ Games to complete: GTA IV [100%] (For Multiplayer next!) Fallout 3 [50%] Rock Band [35%] http://www.cafepress.com/SmeepProducts |
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| Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:32 pm |
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Minor Diety  Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:23 am Posts: 14892 Location: behind a good glass of Duvel
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Now we're talking RAM anyway, true and funny story:
My best friend was messing around with his ram bar, clicking it back into its slot on the mobo....but upside down. Don't ask me HOW he did that (he's still wondering himself), but he managed to click in the ram upside down. lolol. Anyway, he fires up his pc, suddenly sees smoking coming out at the back, and pulls the plug as fast as he can. Ram fried, mobo near-molten.  On the bright side; he talked the guys at the store into giving him a full warranty refund, but man, is that hilarious or what? Frying your pc by clicking in your ram upside down. 
EDIT: btw, as I understand it, low latency ram isn't really all that awesome on most non-specialized pc systems these days. I'd go with the higher mhz one. _________________ "I find a Burger Tank in this place? I'm-a be a one-man cheeseburger apocalypse." - Coach |
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| Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:40 pm |
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Felix Rex Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16701 Location: On a slope
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Wow....I've actually caught myself trying to insert RAM backwards...the key won't usually let you. That guy must've been forcing it pretty rough, or had a crappy mobo. :p Or both.
Anyway....yea, the higher mhz range will probably be fine. I don't know much about DDR2 RAM yet, so maybe CL4 is fine. _________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. |
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| Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:11 pm |
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Minor Diety Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:23 am Posts: 14892 Location: behind a good glass of Duvel
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Story and benchmarks on RAM latency:
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1 ... 762,00.asp You could probably just skip to the conclusion for what you want to know...comes down to it: minor differences, talking 1-4% here when pushed to the edge. So not really worth it if you're strapped for cash. _________________ "I find a Burger Tank in this place? I'm-a be a one-man cheeseburger apocalypse." - Coach |
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| Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:28 am |
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Minor Diety Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:09 pm Posts: 4004 Location: Walsall, West Mids, UK
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Right, that's all the parts ordered (exlcuding GFX cards)
It's the first of the month, and I have no cash left. Luckily, the bigger bills such as council tax are paid, but what little money is left in my account, is for the rest of the bills. Phone line and Electricity to go, Internet is paid, and the Gas/Water bills come quaterly. It's going to be a very, very tight month. If any of you are caught up in the looting send me some stuff to sell._________________ Games to complete: GTA IV [100%] (For Multiplayer next!) Fallout 3 [50%] Rock Band [35%] http://www.cafepress.com/SmeepProducts |
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| Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:16 pm |
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Minor Diety  Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:43 am Posts: 4332
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Turns out my Mobo doesn't have intergrated graphics. FUCKING SHIT BASTARD DICK SLAP.
So anyway, answer this question. This or This The reason I ask is because I will stretch the budget if it is worth it. edit: Mole here btw - Using pev's PC as mine still isn't complete. _________________ 
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Emperor  Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2003 3:42 am Posts: 2005 Location: Under my wife AND son's thumbs.. in essex! chavs! everywhere!!
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the 6600GT if you can afford it, the few extra fps could mean all the difference in games.
for a comparison btw the 2.. http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphi ... index.html in most of the benchmarks theres up to 20-30 fps difference!  _________________ Sleep deprivation for teh lose |
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| Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:29 pm |
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Minor Diety Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:43 am Posts: 4332
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the ones on there that I can spot, are all 128mb, the GT that I linked is a 128, but the one before it, is a 256. The benchmarks that I spot, don't match the two products. Never the less *looks again*
Ahah, This is what I was looking for methinks. Here So I'm going to spend my money on that and cry when it doesn't work. _________________
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| Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:56 pm |
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Emperor Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2003 3:42 am Posts: 2005 Location: Under my wife AND son's thumbs.. in essex! chavs! everywhere!!
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erm..didn't really understand that, what card are you going to get?
don't be fooled into thinking that a 256 model makes it better, i.e. the 9800 pro 256 mb model is actually in some cases slower than the 128mb model. the GT really is better if you can afford it. _________________ Sleep deprivation for teh lose |
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