Yea, I went ahead and got this. I must say it's a very good game. The single player is extremely short, though. I finished it in like a day and change (could've easily finished it in a day). But it's very high quality. And it's not just run and gun. Some examples.

1. Run and gun style...basically SAS or US Marine running around killing stuff on land or on a boat.
2. on-rail AC-130... you sit in a Spectre gunship and blow up shit from on high. Very fun. For an idea of what the sequence is like, check this video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=afv5el1-nhg
I'm pretty sure the video inspired the gameplay... it's almost identical.
3. on-rail helicopter raid... you get to gun with a mark-19 grenade launcher. Also very fun.
4. ghillie suit crawl.... you basically try to hide as a sniper wearing a ghillie suit. Good stuff. I chose to do alot of killing anyway.

Anyway, if you have the cash to spend, it may be worth it because it IS very high quality. However...it's way to damned short. If it were about 5 hours longer I'd totally endorse it.

I hear the multiplayer is great but haven't messed with it yet.

That video, is it real, coz if it is then thats pretty fucked up, chasing one man with god damn artillery.

Multiplayer is like CoD2 (I haven't actually played it yet but I will, Mole has been playing it), therefore yes, it is awesome. Get online with it! I never play SP CoD, just MP.

The multiplayer is fantastic.

Could someone confirm if an M16 has burst fire in real life though? It's a burst weap in the multiplayer and I'm fed up of you yanks screaming "God damnit, it doesn't even have burst fire in real life!" when you mow them down with an M4

Anyways, I don't have time to give all the details but you basically gain EXP for killing people which converts in to levels, which unlocks new 'Perks' such as (A few examples)

Deep Penetration - Bullets can go through thicker walls
Steady Aim - More accuracy when firing from the hip
Iron Lungs - hold your breath longer when sniping
Sleight of Hand - Faster Reload
Double Tap - Faster fire rate
Martydom - Drop a live grenade when killed
Last Stand - When killed you drop to the floor and pull out your pistol to take a few last shots
And a whole bucket load more.

There are 3 'classes' of Perk which are basically Supply (More ammo, extra grenades, RPG's, C4's) Combat (Extra health, more damage etc) and Assist (Iron lungs, can't be seen on radar etc etc) but you can only have 1 from each class (3 perks) so it's never unbalanced.

FUCK GRENADE LAUNCHERS THOUGH!

wait... why is this in rpgs? lol

M16 (a1-a4) are semi & burst. No full auto.

Satis must've had one rough night

Anyway, I cant spare time for CoD4 atm, I need to pass every course i have signed up so i can graduate next year.

M16a1 had full auto and single. After the a1 full auto was replaced with 3 round burst. The M4 is different... from my understanding it still has full auto, but I never fired one so I can't say with any certainty.

I don't know why it was in RPGs. :p

Oh, Peltz, yes that video is real.

Well the MP sucks. Its a niche MP game and lacks dedicated servers which will quite quickly kill the interest in the game. Any dedicated servers i could find were 100% full.

Yea and the 3shot burst really sucks.

I guess you're on the PC version - the 360 version is awesome online (As was CoD2). The level up system (ranks) works really well. I feel sorry for PC gamers if the multiplayer sucks, due to the extreme short single player campaign.

However, I disagree with the statement that the burst fire suck, the M16 is deadly if you know how to use it (As I'd imagine any gun is) but if you level up past level 4 you can choose what weapon you want to use, given that you have to unlock other weapons and the last unlock (that I know of) is I think level 49.

I can see myself playing the mulitplayer game for a very long time to come, especially once you unlock prestige mode.

Well the 3 shot burst is bad because atleast on PC version you need to shoot constantly and full auto, alot.

The PC version is rather pathetic serverwise, I mean if you compare it to BF or ETQW, they got loads of dedicated servers. The ping has a +- atleast 50, it goes up and down all the time, very difficult to decide where to aim. I mean its not normal to shoot a standing person 4 times in the face with a shotgun and see him turn and run away happily.

Ok i played some more and i mean holy shit, ive never seen so bad weapon balance in my days of gaming.

All the US weapons are way over powered, not to mention accuracy. the M16 and M4 and the others the have a ridiculous rate of fire and damage ratio.

SMGs are way too accurate. I mean did the developers even test these guns because if one is going for semi-realistic weaponry, you really should test the live weapons before.

And the game lacks fun, coz i dont know what kind of mod or cheat people you use, they can see you in tall grass, around corners, through walls.

I will go back to ETQW atleast there you are´t killed by headshots every second time.

Don't you have the kill cam on the PC version? On the 360 when you die, it replays your death from the view of the person that killed you - thus showing you just how visible you really are.

I think the weapon balance (so far) is great. I'm not saying realistic mind. Well, sort of. Er, I'll explain.

Basically, the guns take you down. And they take you down hard. All of them. You get hit by a bullet (just one) and your aim is instantly thrown off. Hold in on the trigger with the more powerful guns (or fire to rapidly with an M14 for example) you're gonna hit nothing but air. And to me, that's exactly what happens.

However, by balance - like I said, you get hit it hurts. You get hit twice and live you're lucky. Which is just the way I like it. Unlike things like quake/halo/etc where your just putting round after round in to someone and they don't drop.

The guns (to me) seem accurate to the range they're supposed to be accurate to. An SMG isn't gonna hit someone half a map away (no idea what the real range is) and it doesn't (at least not anything after the first bullet). An M16 has a bit more range, but if you burst fire to much, or run whilst firing, it gets less accurate. The M3/M14 have a decent amount of range due to them being single shot - so the first bullet *pretty much* hits home.

However, the accuracy DOES seems dramatically improved with the red dot sight. The guns seems to loose some of its recoil. Which is odd. But put the ACOG scope on there and it's accuracy vanishes.

The most unbalanced thing that I find is the Grenade Launcher attachment - but you only get 2 grenades with it so I guess it equals out. I dunno, on the console I'd give this my GotY.

Well maybe on a console the super accuracy works fine but on PC its a no no. Basically if someone has a fly on their shoulders you could hit it.

On PC there will be only the hardcore and campers left very soon because casual players generally prefer games where you live longer that 15 seconds.

About the red dot. A month ago there was this big shooting exercise here in estonia organized by the reserve officers association and they had one Galil fitted with red dot. And the opinions were quite mixed. Some said they couldnt aim at all with, especially when it got darker, some said its excellent, some said its ok but still prefer manual aiming. And ironically the fastest on the tactical rifle track if i remember correctly was iron sights.

There were participants from Poland, Latvia, Lithuani and some from countries i cant recall anymore.

heh I've been reading all this... I'm probably the definition of the casual FPS multiplayer, coz I'm crap at 'em You should see me on Halo... its er... interesting. And yet CoD2 is the ONE game I love to play multiplayer, and because #4 on 360 plays like #2, I intend (when I can drag myself away from WoW) to play it. And if it really does play like #2, I can see myself playing it a lot and I will actually be pretty good at it. So I'd disagree with it chasing away all the casual players, at least on the console versions.