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Author:  Satis [ Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:00 am ]
Post subject:  legal for teacher to call creationists superstitious

A teach was sued in California for basically calling creationism a bunch of superstitious nonsense. A student took offense and basically sued on the idea that the teacher represented the government, which was required by our constitution to remain neutral on any questions of religion.

Specifically he was quoted as saying:
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“Aristotle … argued, you know, there sort of has to be a God. Of course that’s nonsense,” Corbett said according to a transcript of his lecture. “I mean, that’s what you call deductive reasoning, you know. And you hear it all the time with people who say, ‘Well, if all this stuff that makes up the universe is here, something must have created it.’ Faulty logic. Very faulty logic.”

He continued: “The other possibility is, it’s always been there.… Your call as to which one of those notions is scientific and which one is magic.”

“All I’m saying is that, you know, the people who want to make the argument that God did it, there is as much evidence that God did it as there is that there is a giant spaghetti monster living behind the moon who did it,” the transcript says.

Corbett told his students that “real” scientists try to disprove the theory of evolution. “Contrast that with creationists,” he told his students. “They never try to disprove creationism. They’re all running around trying to prove it. That’s deduction. It’s not science. Scientifically, it’s nonsense.”


The case was dismissed by an appeals court
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“In broaching controversial issues like religion, teachers must be sensitive to students’ personal beliefs and take care not to abuse their positions of authority,” Judge Fisher wrote.

“But teachers must also be given leeway to challenge students to foster critical thinking skills and develop their analytical abilities,” he said. “This balance is hard to achieve, and we must be careful not to curb intellectual freedom by imposing dogmatic restrictions.”


I find the whole situation amusing, and a win for freedom of expression and science.

Author:  Rinox [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: legal for teacher to call creationists superstitious

I'm surprised he even got to explain the basics of scientific research. If this weren't a court (where people are made to let each other finish), the explanation would be interrupted halfway by some fat, retarded creationist "scientist" saying how these fuzzy scientist explanations were just dancing around the issue.

That's always the case for people who want to make a proper explanation on TV and radio these days. Because our society is growing more and more complex, all problems and their causes are hard to explain to. But because the media & the public want short and easily digestable soundbites and clips, there is no room for people who actually want to make a proper explanation and they are drowned out by jackasses who're good at spouting oneliners and quick solutions. The entire political system has been affected to the extent that you can't become anything really important anymore if you are 'boring' or 'woolly'. :(

Glad to see there is still some hope left.

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