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WEF: The Global Competitivness Report 2009-2010
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Peltz
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 WEF: The Global Competitivness Report 2009-2010
http://www.weforum.org/documents/GCR09/index.html
Here is a report on 133 countries which is quite good for homeworks apparently.
Country/Domestic Market Size/Global Competitivness Index
US/1/2..................(Canada/14/9)
UK/6/13................(France/7/16)
Belgium/28/18......(Netherlands/20/10)
Estonia/96/35......(Latvia/82/68...Lithuania/71/53)
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Italy/10/48
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:41 am |
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Peltz
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Quality of primary education
Damn Ox, you probably have lots of Estonian teachers at your primary schools Gross tertiary education enrollment rate | 2007
Immigrants and foreign students probably.
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Rinox
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lol yay! Dastardly Fins though!!
Man, how can the US be on top of the competitiveness index and way down the bottom education-wise? Well, I know the answer: working insane hours with little holiday. 
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:12 am |
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Peltz
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It's the rednecks, my dear man, rednecks i say.
You dont have to be smart to consume everything marketed on the tv.
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The two education tables are not comparable since one measures quality and one measures enrollment (whatever that is).
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:23 am |
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Rinox
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It's registration at the schools, but I wonder how the numbers work and what they represent (probably %). Doesn't make sense that only 60% of all children in Belgium would be registered in a school tho.  We're not Zambia.
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:32 am |
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Peltz
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Tertiary education is University education just in case you missed that but i am not exactly sure what those number represent.
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This is given in the "how to read.." part.
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:48 am |
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derf
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Italy scored strangely low on economy.
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:58 am |
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Satis
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I thought Italy's economy was jacked up.
On the education think, I'd like to know what the numbers actually represent. % for the tertiary enrollment sounds plausibly. Regarding that, tertiary schools really shouldn't have a huge enrollment. With a lower enrollment, it means less people need a University degree to get a job, which means the Universities will teach more and be less apt to just become degree mills. We're seeing that issue in the US... everyone MUST get a bachelor's degree... thus, all main bachelor degree courses are dumbed down with huge classes and overworked professors. It doesn't really do anyone any good.
I'd still go to college regardless... I like to learn. But Joe Sixpack really doesn't need to go to college so he can work in an auto-repair shop. 
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:07 am |
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Peltz
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I think the US primary school quality is brought down by the slum and ghetto schools that spawn future rap stars and candidates for the national hobby, gangwars. The tertiary education in US benefits from somewhat silly understanding that going to a US university is victory by default. The amount of foreign students in US is probably way beyond ridiculous.
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My opinions here are my opinions alone, in no way should they be taken as a truth or facts and my opinion is bound to change should i get off my lazy ass and read more 
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:15 am |
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derf
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lol @ gangwars.
Yeah, I think about University enrolment like Satis I think. Increased rates of enrolment isn't really related to education quality. It would like to say that it can indicate a general average of intelligence among citizens, but you can't compare this across countries because Swiss degrees and general lifestyle may be 20 times more stimulating than US degrees.
Italy's economy is apparently quite strong. Ranked 8-10 in terms of GDP, but it has a huge black economy. Perhaps this BE isn't being accounted for in Peltz's report. Fyi: Black economy in Italy exists both in North and South. In the North it mainly comprises an institutionalised habit of not paying taxes and in the south... well... mafia and southerners.
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:31 am |
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Peltz
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For the record this is not my report, im not involved in this economic study in any other way than being an estonian consumer. I linked this study because it cycled through some of the estonian media because we cant help but point out to everyone how good we are (lol).
Italy/10/48
I think this reflects in the competitivness index of 48.
Russia/8/63
Its kinda the same with Russia, huge market but handicapped in competitivness.
Anyway from the top10 of the worlds largest markets only 6 fit into the top40 competitivness index. Its also important to note that not many conclusions can be made from this index but we can see some general hints that smaller/medium countries tend to be more competitive in order to attract foreign capital. Large markets tend to succumb to their own politics and bureacracy and fall behind in this chart but then again their sheer size draws capital anyway.
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:31 am |
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Satis
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I think Peltz's report was made by Peltz throwing dung at a wall.
Interesting information all around, though I'm not a big economics kinda guy.
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:58 pm |
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Rinox
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lol @ Peltz blaming ghetto culture for the decline in American primary school quality. The two may very well be related, but I'd be quicker to say that the bad school system feeds the ghetto culture than the other way around.
The reason isn't lack of funding either - American schools get as much money as those in most European countries. But I'm not an expert so I have no idea either what exactly is the cause of the decline.
And seriously, is the bachelor craze so big in the US? I had no idea. I thought a major part of the population never made it to college, it being so hideously expensive if you don't have a scholarship.
Not that university or higher education is so exclusive around here or anything anymore.  There's a similar trend. I've got two master degrees and I can't find a job for the life of me. Disregarding my many personal flaws holding me back for a moment, I can't imagine what it would be like for someone with, say, a single bachelor.
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Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:07 am |
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Satis
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haha... most people here go into debt for many years of their adult life as a direct result of earning their bachelor's degree. But American culture is all about getting buried in debt for your entire life. Thankfully I don't fall into that category, but it's pretty sad how big a part of the economy debt really is. You wouldn't believe how many 'credit card deals' get dropped on college students, before they're smart enough to realize what it really means.
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Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:19 am |
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Rinox
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Man, I haven't been in debt in my entire life either, and I don't think most middle-class people in Belgium have ever been. It's almost frightening that it's so endemic in the US. I knew the macroeconomy was relying on debt (with China etc), but not that the actual people inside the economy were living on the same principles. 
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