I limited myself to the world I know:


I.E. Here you cannot point me a girl that drives her bf in her car. It is always girl who drives with in bf's or pap's car. Even if she get is as gift, there is still the fact she didn't earn it in the way male would have. etc.

I expect no less from you guys, than to defend the ladies, or whatever you believe in. But none should miss which gender was always able (and my expression comes exactly from too frequent use of that ability) to use an "easier" way of earning the money. I am sick of parasites and the fact I cannot find a non-parasite here. Oh actually there are non-parasites, but that was rather inability to use advantage (eye, leg, hand missing, face that even mum would not kiss etc) of gender than non-following the trends.

Yeah, maybe I will move to USA to find some "cool chicks". German girls were pretty ok but I do not meet them every day.

No offense (well some offense) but you are not going to find a "cool chick" with that attitude.

And saying chicks do not earn their cars it is just a gift from their dads or boyfriends..... have you been hitting the bottle again? Crack maybe?

I could show you plenty of chicks who had to buy and maintain their car on their own.

And what does having a gift from a parent have to do with not working?

My mother bought my current car - why? not because I am a female - but because she bought my brother the brand new sports car..... what did I get? A used 4 door sedan. So I bite my thumb at thee sir.

Well I was just saying here isn't any. Maybe it is rather that I'm saying it because there isn't any than that there isn't any because I'm saying it. Eh? Anyway this part of your thesis falls in water because of paragraph three.

And what I will find or not, that is NOT the topic here. I spoke about much larger tragedy than one's.

But if you wish to stick with your theory, tell me: why I could have german gf and not bulgarian? It may be really that you are speaking about the things you are absolutely ignorant of, and even putting crack in my hands to help up to what you are saying. Nice arguments. Well, I will tell you again why: it is the fact that Bulgaria experiences much greater famine than Gremany and in situations of famine, boys are who earn the money. Not girls, because they have easier way to get it. Boy has not money = boy is not interesting. Every rule has exceptions but it is still a rule. It can't be ignored.


Such one here where I am (Bulgaria, Sofia) in my age group (18-23)? Students? (that are in most having 8-12hrs classes per day + large homeworks = no chance to work somewhere without being bad+irregular student) Honestly - feel free. But keep on mind the point of the previous paragraph.


Ah, yes. Maybe I wasn't connecting gift with nonworking but nonworking with gift. Go down on the scale of abstraction and you will face the sense of what was said.


I will not disgrace anyone. I will just piss them off for their own stupidity and limited view of the world - which they do not want to extend for blind pride or/and short mind. Sorry I cannot help but tell what I see and give the facts. I know of the world you live in, Shiny, and that is why I limited what I've said to the world I live in.

Your intent may be that you were pointing out the "tragedy" of you small party of the world, however you managed to say women/girls. Which I sir disagree with. Maybe American women are more self sustaining than the women you are in direct contact with. And maybe it is just you. Maybe they just don't like you so you are bitter with the fact that you are unwanted. Now that sir is harsh - and I do not think that the total case - why you ask? because despite your recent idealism on women being only worthy of what they are given.... you most of the time seem to have a brain - regardless of how ineffectively you seem to convey it. I actually respect the fact that you are a very hard working individual on your education. I think many women find it sexy. But sir, this bitterness and sexism is definately not sexy. And I for one would never want to date a guy who thinks that the only thing women see is women, in addition to the comment on women not working. I take offense to that especially in cases where like recently I would have loved to stay at home and actually get some sleep and take care of those dear to me - but I HAD TO WORK! So take your attempts to slam my intelligence and run away. I write on these forums to relax - so I am uninterested in if they are read - responded to or not - I also do not care of I write in correct form - again I am writting for me not you. I think you may need some help with your anger issues sir if the bottom line seems to be the "poor me" of your current situation. You can change anything you want to even with all of the "inequalities" out there. Stop fussing and get to work at fixing the issues you see.... or are you just the type who likes to sit in ones glass house and throw stones?

There was no bitterness and self-concern in my previous post (except on the places where you asked for it - deny it). No hard feelings. As well, I'd not recommend you falling into trap of closing to believe I was writing it and this now because I fell into some sort of self-pity. The part that you are probably missing, because it wasn't said, is that the tragedy is on girl's side too. Would you just know how much of pretty and smart girls suck pig's dicks in order to have what to eat for dinner here (can you call that "work"..), the melody of yours would probably get an other set of accords. At least I even forget about that evening of bitterness when I think of that. Yet another skipped part is that I am not bitter with the girls here, because we know what the chances then are. I was bitter here, on CK. That is as well the reason why I count many friends which are girls, while just few that are boys. But despite the fact I meet many of them which are single and they like chit-chatting, from what I've seen I can tell you one for sure: in this land in this city such one as myself (and that is majority of people in my age or younger) will not have gf close to his age (only young and inexperienced fall) before he get himself a relatively well paid job. So you are right about that I can fix the situation: work and money will solve the thing. But autch, there is a slight problem: I cannot work and study at the same time in this schooling system.

Yes, I am direct, telling truth (or verbatim of what I see) in most and am quite sarcastic, when possible, in that. That is the part we agree about too: many but very many people dislike me because of that. At the other part, many others like me because I tell that way what they couldn't. And yes, I confirm you my personal opinion that will not change: what here happens would be happening there in your USA too, under same conditions. But I am probably wrong expecting from an (assuming average) American to understand what is famine.

You should avoid an other trap too: please point me the sentence where I speak in overall and tell that women are not working. If you point it, I will correct it, because that wasn't what I wanted to say. But if you do not do it maybe you just wanted to blame me because you needed to blame someone for what you have read. Not because there is real reason for that. Consider that near the fact that you write in the forums to relax, because in that case it seems that you are who started the flame.

Btw I might want to extend my story a little - to the whole former SSSR together with some of rest of east Europa, which cannot be called "small party of the world". But I still think Bulgaria is enough not to deserve that name.

I do not deny - that if girls are "selling themselves" for food to eat it is not a very sad state of affairs. Belive me I have been very poor in my life - I at one point had to live off of only $20 a week - for food for me, my dog, the dog I rescued, and the cat I rescused, cat litter, shampoo, etc... that is all the groceries - not just my eating out money - so I understand being poor (and I was working and going to school).

I understand the desperate things people do for a living - although I belive most things in life people can make changes in their lives to be able to support themselves in a more socially acceptable manner if they so chose.

I also believe people chose the bad paths they went down and it is no fault but of their own. I will also agree that this thinking is largely based on my enviornment and other places in the world the same opportunites may not exist - but there are always opportunities.

However, I did not start this - you did - not that I think it really matters who started this but all of this started with my question asking (sorry we do name you writting gfreglish for a reason) if what you said was really that it is only males that have to work based upon your qoute, "males are those who have to earn money."

Now I freely agree that what you said may not have been your meaning and it may have been taken out of context - however that is why my next post after yours where that was written - I asked if that is what you had said - and others on this forums seem to belive that was your intentions as well.

If it was taken out of context fine - I am sure it is not what you meant and you were simply commenting on the social inequalities for this group of people. But that sir, was not my understanding of what you wrote. I further will say that I understand that you as many on these forums are not writting in your native tounge and I could understand in my inability to understand your intent based upon language. I for one do attempt to speak other languages, and have grave difficulty in that challenge. At any rate I will spill my beliefs out on this matter because I do not wish to waste more of my time bantering back and forth with you on this subject.

I belive that life throws people into bad situations and one must get themselves into a place they wish to be and I belive for the most part that there are ways to get yourself where you wish to be. I also belive I know many people who had nothing and worked their asses off to get where they are today both male and female. I do not believe women shoudl be looked after as simple toys for men who work or have money. I believe women are simply put people like any other person - for good or bad.

About opportunities: USA is one of the richest if not the richest land of this world, while the regions I mentioned, excluding Africa are poorest. Imo when there in money in the land, there is as well opportunity to earn it. If land does not have the money, well, how is one supposed to earn it.. (not a question really) That is why I stick to my thesis, about how comparison between these two blocks is in vain. We can go into the details i.e. "why here is impossible to work and go to school" but you told already you do not wish to waste more of your time so let leave the cake on the line that we disagree about this.

Explanation: Yes I told "males are those who have to earn money", and that was in connection with my adoring to gays and that was told in conclusion of previous paragraph, which started with "What I can see here". Note the word "here". I didn't touch territory out of Europe.

Few months ago I even got in argue with one of my best friends (a girl of course) about this topic. She defended girls and herself by all means possible, yet she could not deny that her bf is earning quite much too. She called her case "special" but so would do any of other girls. Actually almost all girls I know here and at my home. And I understand it and take is as a part of human nature. But I am as well able to spit word two about it from time to time. And honestly, when I get the faculty off my back I'm not about to stay here or at my home for I'm sick of it. I will probably try to work and live somewhere on west or northwest where atmosphere is much cleaner in this sense.

You - simple, open and direct, when not under affect.

Honestly, I think you shouldn't blame my English as much as my actual style of writing. Even on my native language I meet really complex misunderstandings because of that. I do not know how this exactly looks on English - because I will never achieve that level there, but on my native it is both bless and curse. Grammatically it is correct, able to tell whatever is to be told without approximations and from the side of lexical shape it is perfect. The people who are used to read and write much like it. The other side of the medal is that full understanding it assumes some strict rules which are, although absolutely logical, often forgotten/missed/unknown to readers/listeners who are personally touched by it. That could be exact problem here too, imo, near my insufficient knowledge of En, for what I can only tell I am sorry about.

I'm surprised to hear that that's the situation in Bulgaria. I know that Eastern-Europe and former Sovjet-Union aren't exactly the best places to live in, but i didn't know that they're still 100 years behind (men do the work, women try to find someone that will be able to support her and any family that will follow).

Considering that Bulgaria just joined the EU, and Romania (which i would think can be compared in many ways to Bulgaria) also joined, i wonder what they will contribute to the EU?

Anyway, you're probably right wanting to get out of there once you have your degree man, come to Belgium.

They'll contribute cheap labour. Just in time, we're running out of Poles. On the other hand, both Romania and Bulgaria were far from ready to join the EU.

Wellm, J, there are some differences that make it easier today. Rich daddies ain't that much concerned if they will have only sons or only daughters and of course are splitting their goods in a better way than before 100 years. As well, like Shiny said, such an behavior and attitude characteristic for males before 100 years is now "out" and to some extent even illegal. Well, I said that in other words in my first post actually.

Basically I said what everyone here knows, but as well would deny, if not pissed off enough like myself before few weeks.

As for EU, I'm really surprised that Bulgaria entered but not Croatia as well. (wtf?)

/me finds this discussion sensitive matter

topic split...I'm sure plenty women worked on Firefox and IE.

I'm not sure I follow, but isnt GFree saying that...

a) Most women in Bulgaria are "parasites"?
b) He doesn't like "parasite" women?

Quite. Get me here someone involved in the story and observe the forum post count.. if it suddenly slows that mean they have found me and burned me on the cross.

Btw, Sat, I do not see why have you not spited the other related posts.