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Author: | Rinox [ Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:03 am ] |
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On how religion is fucking up America(n politics) and the world at large. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15566391/site/newsweek Apparently 44% of Americans believes Jesus will return within 50 years. Yeah, uhm... |
Author: | Satis [ Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:16 am ] |
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with a figure like that, the poll has to be rigged. 44% of Americans? According to some stats I found, only about 70% of Americans are Christians... so that 44% figure would mean that over 60% of Christians believe that Jesus is coming. And most Christians (in my experience) are only Christian in name... they make the right noises but don't go to church and don't really believe much of anything. btw, looks like the link is down |
Author: | Rinox [ Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:18 am ] | |||||||||
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It's down? Weird...anyway, I'll copy-paste it here
I agree that 44% sounds like a very large number...but NBC is a fairly reliable news source where I assume they don't juggle around numbers lightly. And even if it's not 44%, even 30% would be HUGE. |
Author: | derf [ Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:56 am ] |
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My feelings are pretty much reflected entirely by that article. But its not just in the US, its everywhere. Just the other day Saddam was shouting "God is Great!". That shit scares me. Firstly, how so many average people are delusional, and secondly, how many leaders are equally delusional. |
Author: | Rinox [ Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:22 am ] |
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Well, Saddam wasn't really a religious nutcase...that was just play to please the masses. In fact, Saddam probably pissed on Allah when nobody was looking. ![]() ![]() Maybe Saddam is so crazy by now that he started to believe the stuff, could be. But he definitely wasn't a fundamentalist. |
Author: | Satis [ Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:39 pm ] |
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well, I'll agree that religion is the root of a great deal of evil, but those numbers just seem mildly inflated. Anyway, hear hear to atheism. Or satanism...hell, I'll the satanism over christianity any day of the week. Well, Anton LeVay satanism at least. |
Author: | derf [ Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:50 am ] |
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Dawkins is our god!!! Lol, just kidding. I thought: Religious belief makes people form communities, no? E.g. Christians hang with christians, Muslims hang with muslims...Then you have a group of Atheists. You don't see Atheists intentionally hang with eachother do you? This is the beauty of Atheism, it seems there is no need to belong to a group of people in particular. Rather harmonious. To send this theory crashing, someone will now tell me that in the US there is a group of Atheist extremists or something. ![]() |
Author: | Rinox [ Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:36 am ] |
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There probably is (and Satis is their moral leader ![]() When researching the question of howcome people are prone to identify with (artificial) groups like nations, religions and so on, it turned out that there's a minority of about 20% (iirc) in every population that is highly individualistic and is much less likely to identify with any group at large. I should try to find that study. ![]() |
Author: | derf [ Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:59 am ] |
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Im willing to bet im in that 20%. |
Author: | Rinox [ Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:35 pm ] |
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I think the core group of CK are pretty much all in that group, so yeah. |
Author: | Satis [ Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:44 pm ] |
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yea, I'll go with that. I tend to identify with groups that think. Thought is all I really require. Unfortuanetly, many people are sadly lacking in this department. :p No extremist atheists that I know of. Certainly not the blow myself to hell type of extremist. But then again, in a (largely) Christian US, being an atheist is pretty extreme in and of itself. You don't wanna know the looks I get from people when they realize I'm an atheist. ![]() Now I realize that throwing someone off balance can be dangerous to your health. |
Author: | Rinox [ Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:56 pm ] |
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Hehehe...yeah, often it's better to walk the middle road and then, when they least expect it, lash out with you fury and skillz. I can imagine that whoring around your atheism isn't exactly a superb career move in a society that is still very religious (for a Western country anyway). ![]() Btw, when i come over to the Lone Star State I want to do some shooting. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Arathorn [ Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:51 am ] |
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You can also go to a shooting club, at least here in Holland, it's nice for a day out with friends. |
Author: | derf [ Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:42 am ] |
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Yeah, but shooting clubs in the US pwn! |
Author: | Satis [ Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:59 am ] |
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yea...we've got two pistols and a rifle to play with. I'm sure Ox will enjoy it immensely. Assuming we can teach him rudimentary gun safety. ![]() Err...anyway... hear hear to guns! |
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