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Author:  ElevenBravo [ Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:38 am ]
Post subject:  Experts forecast another active Atlantic hurricane season

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/04/0 ... e6r2g.html

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Experts forecast another active Atlantic hurricane season

Forecasters warned that the upcoming Atlantic cyclonic season would again be highly active, with a total of 17 tropical storms, including nine hurricanes, likely to form.

Of those hurricanes, five should be intense, meaning they will reach or exceed Category 3 on the five-level Saffir-Simpson hurricane intensity scale, said leading experts William Gray and Philip Klotzbach of Colorado State University.

While the numbers are above the historical average, they remain below last year's record of 26 tropical storms and 14 hurricanes, seven of them intense.

The study said there was a 98 percent chance of a hurricane making landfall in the United States, with an 88 percent likelihood of a Category 1 or 2 striking land and an 81 percent chance of a Category 3, 4 or 5 slamming ashore.

But Gray said it was unlikely the United States would be as hard hit as it has been in the past two years -- each of which saw four major hurricanes slam ashore.

"Even though we expect to see the current active period of Atlantic major hurricane activity to continue for another 15 to 20 years, it is statistically unlikely that the coming 2006 and 2007 hurricane seasons, or the seasons that follow, will have the number of major hurricane US landfalls as we have seen in 2004-2005."

Experts believe the latest record hurricane season was part of a cycle where periods of relative calm alternate with decades of intense activity.

Some scientists also believe global warming plays a crucial role by further increasing the temperature of warm ocean waters that provide fuel to the hurricanes.

But the Colorado State University study played down the theory.

"No credible observational evidence is available or likely will be available in the next few decades which will directly associate global surface temperature change to changes in global frequency and intensity," it said.


The hurricane season officially runs from June 1 to November 30.

Author:  Satis [ Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:53 pm ]
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hey, people are slowly chilling out on the whole global warming sky is falling crap. Nice. Maybe we'll start doing some real climate science again instead of forecasting the apocalypse.

Author:  Myrddin L'argenton [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:33 am ]
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Typical American post- deny global warming or any problems connected to their use of petrol.

Author:  Satis [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:39 am ]
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don't call it typical american....99% of the modern media screams about how humans are causing global warming and the world is going to end. This is one of the few articles I've seen recently that doesn't.

As for whether or not humanity is the cause of global warming, I'm not going to argue that. It's like religion or politics.

Author:  Myrddin L'argenton [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:42 am ]
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I just find it a slight concidence that the more we burn greenhouse gases such as CO, CO2 and SO3 we get more and more global warming.

Author:  ElevenBravo [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:58 am ]
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123013,00.html

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About 95 percent of the greenhouse effect (search) — the atmospheric warming due to the trapping of solar energy that makes life possible on Earth — is due to water vapor, 99.999 percent of which is of natural origin.


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The other 5 percent of the greenhouse effect is due to carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide and other miscellaneous gases.


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That means that only about 0.11 percent of the greenhouse effect (that is, 3 percent of 3.6 percent) is due to human releases of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

Put another way, about 99.89 percent of the greenhouse effect has nothing to do with carbon-dioxide emissions from human activity.


http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

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Just how much of the "Greenhouse Effect" is caused by human activity?

It is about 0.28%, if water vapor is taken into account-- about 5.53%, if not.


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Water vapor overwhelms
all other natural and man-made
greenhouse contributions.





I say we must eliminate all water on earth since its the major cause. Again PROOF global warming is natural.


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Author:  Satis [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:18 am ]
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We're been burning greenhouse gasses for hundreds of years, yet the whole 'global warming' thing has only been going on for a few decades. I find that mildly coincidental as well. Or did the industrial age, where we were burning the shit out of coal and wood, not count somehow?

How about the fact that the average temperature of the earth over geologic time is 22 degrees C, compared to 15.5 right now...so, actually, we're finally recovering from a bout of cold, even a mini ice age. Increased temperature will help to raise humidity, which will only improve plantlife and may even reverse some desertization. Various parts of the world that are currently uninhabitable will become habitable.

Author:  Arathorn [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:53 am ]
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The effect of the global warming seems to be that weather becomes more extreme, dry regions getting dryer and wet regions getting wetter. Water vapour is not evenly distributed throughout the atmosphere, and it isn't suddenly going to be. Global warming is also responsible for the dying of corals and tropical islands flooding. I agree that it isn't certain who the biggest contributer of global warming is, nature or humanity, but it certainly isn't a good thing.
I think the best reason for becoming more energy efficient is that we're simply running out of oil. And if you want to waste energy, but a goddamn sports car, not an SUV. :wink:

Author:  ElevenBravo [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:30 am ]
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Arathorn wrote:
I agree that it isn't certain who the biggest contributer of global warming is, nature or humanity,


Um, yes it is. Maybe you missed this image the first time.

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Just how much of the "Greenhouse Effect" is caused by human activity?

It is about 0.28%, if water vapor is taken into account-- about 5.53%, if not.

Author:  Arathorn [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:56 am ]
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Says that study. :roll:

Author:  derf [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:40 am ]
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Wikipedia sais otherwise:

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The greenhouse gases

Water vapor (H2O) causes about 60% of Earth's naturally-occurring greenhouse effect. Other gases influencing the effect include carbon dioxide (CO2) (about 26%), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O) and ozone (O3) (about 8%).

Author:  Rinox [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:54 am ]
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It's Foxnews, what did you expect? :wink:

Author:  derf [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:59 am ]
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haha.

Author:  Satis [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:15 am ]
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heh....ok...so......

despite what many news outlets would have us believe, the whole climatology thing is more smoke and mirrors and people reading the stars then it is science. These people that are 100% certain and jumping around about global warming being human caused....show me one person that can take the weather on January 3rd, 1980, and extrapolate mathematically what the weather was like 7 days later. They can't, because we don't known enough. There's no way in hell they can forecast weather across hundreds (thousands) of years... it's pure guesswork.

I do agree in a cleaner world. But not because of global warming. I think hydrogen is the future... it's clean, powerful, plentiful, and would take alot of money and power away from a very unstable portion of the world. Bonus. It's a way to seriously reduce smog and the funk I have to live in.... though a couple millions cars squirting out water will probably have their own environmental impact. It's also the future... hydrogen is a better fuel then petroleum.

Oh, and Kyoto is a bunch of BS that I will never support.

Author:  derf [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:12 pm ]
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And then theres the whole 'butterfly effect' theory.

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