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Author:  Satis [ Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:48 am ]
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pretty whacky.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4432564.stm

Dude was HIV positive in 2002, and negative in 2003. There appears to be no doubt as to the accuracy of either test, so it would appear his body defeated HIV. Crazy stuff.

Then again, who knows. Maybe it was a testing problem.
Author:  Arathorn [ Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:39 am ]
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There are prostitutes in Africa that are immune to HIV too. And appearently Western Europeans and their descendants (like white Americans and Australians) have a small resistance to HIV, probably because of the plague raging through Western Europe in the Middle Ages. Someone curing himself from HIV is new, however.
Author:  derf [ Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:19 am ]
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Yeah heard this too.

Its not yet confirmed totally that all tests are accurate. But when (if) they do, this guy will turn into a human guinea-pig.
Author:  Satis [ Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:43 pm ]
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agreed. But if it is real, then the cure to HIV may be right around the corner. Well, 'right around the corner' isn't all that immediate. :p Slow ass FDA approval. hehe
Author:  Myrddin L'argenton [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:41 am ]
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But the problem is that he won't let doctors investigate him. Yes he might be badgered a lot but if he can provide something so desperately needed e should come forward, despite the media attention. Otherwise I'm slightly skeptical.
Author:  derf [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:56 am ]
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Lol. He wont let doctors investigate him? He has no fucking choice! I doubt that dip shit has considered that he can single handedly save the lives of many millions. Fuck it. Abduct him, that what i say. What a cock sucker.
Author:  Satis [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:35 am ]
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wow, Derf. Fuck personal freedom! It's his right to not be tested if he doesn't want to. Forcing it on him is pretty wrong. Of course, I think he ought to do it. I have a funny feeling he's waiting for a big enough $$$ offer. Probably from a major drug manufacturing firm. But hey, what do I know.
Author:  derf [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:41 am ]
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Personal freedom? What about the personal freedom of the many millions of deaths he will be responsible for? Will you sacrifice one innocent man for the life of another 10 million? Shit, i'd sacrifice myself for that!
Author:  Mole [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:54 am ]
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I don't think it's a good thing that there is a possible cure around the corner. When will people get it in to their heads that the world is grossly over populated, and things like AID's, Natural disasters and other diseases are designed to prevent the world being over populated?
Author:  pevil [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:09 am ]
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lol and if it was just a dodgy test result? hell, could be he still has hiv and the last test fucked up.

Besides if you're gonna use that argument, have a go at all the already dead people lying in the ground or burnt in crematoriums who had perfectly healthy organs to help save other people. Sure its selfish of him, but he has the right.
Author:  derf [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:21 am ]
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@ Mole

I hope youre fucking joking. :o

@ Pevil

Organs? What are you on about?
Author:  Arathorn [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:40 am ]
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It is quite true though. It's not nice to say it, but the hunger that will arise with too large a world population may be as bad a killer as these epedemics.

What pevster means, is that's he not much more egoistic then the thousands of people buried and cremated over the world with good organs that could have been used for transplants to save lifes.
Author:  derf [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:07 pm ]
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Thats different, because its much more difficult to actually do.

As for the notion of population control, apparently the population/birth rate in western developing countries is decreasing.
Author:  Satis [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:30 pm ]
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it's not difficult to do. Every person that dies (in the modern world) typically dies at a hospital. At very least they get transported to a hospital or coroner at some point. Wouldn't be a big deal to hack em open and take whatever still works.

However, that's a gross violation of someone's dignity. Just like forcing someone to donate blood, or become a scientific guineau pig because they may hold the cure to AIDS.

Who makes the decision that something is so important for society that a person's freedoms can be ignored? The government? And where do they draw the line? They may decide that Derf has the perfect genetic structure to participate in Anthrax trials....you get hauled off against your will, stuck in a room, and infected with anthrax. Or ebola. Or some other horrible disease.
Author:  derf [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:46 pm ]
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Firstly, i am speaking in comparative sense. Take the two scenarios:

A = When every human being dies, their organs must be removed to help save millions of lives.

B = 1 person may have the answer to the AIDS cure, we must get it from him to save millions of lives.

Now which one is feasable?

With regards to the rest of your post, i think youre getting too caught up in the politics of it. Where is your humanity? Were talking about saving MILLIONS of peoples lives in sacrifice of one persons freedom. Can you not see the pure maths behind this?
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