It is currently Fri Jul 25, 2025 9:36 am



Reply to topic  [ 40 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Man cures self of HIV 
Author Message
Felix Rex
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm
Posts: 16702
Location: On a slope
Reply with quote
Post Man cures self of HIV
pretty whacky.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4432564.stm

Dude was HIV positive in 2002, and negative in 2003. There appears to be no doubt as to the accuracy of either test, so it would appear his body defeated HIV. Crazy stuff.

Then again, who knows. Maybe it was a testing problem.

_________________
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.


Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:48 am
Profile WWW
Minor Diety
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2003 10:23 am
Posts: 3956
Location: Amsterdam
Reply with quote
Post 
There are prostitutes in Africa that are immune to HIV too. And appearently Western Europeans and their descendants (like white Americans and Australians) have a small resistance to HIV, probably because of the plague raging through Western Europe in the Middle Ages. Someone curing himself from HIV is new, however.

_________________
Melchett: As private parts to the gods are we: they play with us for their sport!


Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:39 am
Profile
Minor Diety
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm
Posts: 7737
Location: Centre of the sun
Reply with quote
Post 
Yeah heard this too.

Its not yet confirmed totally that all tests are accurate. But when (if) they do, this guy will turn into a human guinea-pig.

_________________
"Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson


Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:19 am
Profile
Felix Rex
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm
Posts: 16702
Location: On a slope
Reply with quote
Post 
agreed. But if it is real, then the cure to HIV may be right around the corner. Well, 'right around the corner' isn't all that immediate. :p Slow ass FDA approval. hehe

_________________
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.


Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:43 pm
Profile WWW
King
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2003 6:17 am
Posts: 1717
Location: The Plateaus of Insanity
Reply with quote
Post 
But the problem is that he won't let doctors investigate him. Yes he might be badgered a lot but if he can provide something so desperately needed e should come forward, despite the media attention. Otherwise I'm slightly skeptical.

_________________
I think drugs have done some really good things. If you don't believe me, go home tonight, take all your cassettes, CDs, etc and burn them. Because those artists that have made that music were real fucking high- Bill Hicks


Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:41 am
Profile
Minor Diety
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm
Posts: 7737
Location: Centre of the sun
Reply with quote
Post 
Lol. He wont let doctors investigate him? He has no fucking choice! I doubt that dip shit has considered that he can single handedly save the lives of many millions. Fuck it. Abduct him, that what i say. What a cock sucker.

_________________
"Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson


Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:56 am
Profile
Felix Rex
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm
Posts: 16702
Location: On a slope
Reply with quote
Post 
wow, Derf. Fuck personal freedom! It's his right to not be tested if he doesn't want to. Forcing it on him is pretty wrong. Of course, I think he ought to do it. I have a funny feeling he's waiting for a big enough $$$ offer. Probably from a major drug manufacturing firm. But hey, what do I know.

_________________
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.


Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:35 am
Profile WWW
Minor Diety
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm
Posts: 7737
Location: Centre of the sun
Reply with quote
Post 
Personal freedom? What about the personal freedom of the many millions of deaths he will be responsible for? Will you sacrifice one innocent man for the life of another 10 million? Shit, i'd sacrifice myself for that!

_________________
"Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson


Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:41 am
Profile
Minor Diety
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:09 pm
Posts: 4004
Location: Walsall, West Mids, UK
Reply with quote
Post 
I don't think it's a good thing that there is a possible cure around the corner. When will people get it in to their heads that the world is grossly over populated, and things like AID's, Natural disasters and other diseases are designed to prevent the world being over populated?

_________________
Games to complete:
GTA IV [100%] (For Multiplayer next!)
Fallout 3 [50%]
Rock Band [35%]
http://www.cafepress.com/SmeepProducts


Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:54 am
Profile WWW
Minor Diety
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:43 am
Posts: 4332
Reply with quote
Post 
lol and if it was just a dodgy test result? hell, could be he still has hiv and the last test fucked up.

Besides if you're gonna use that argument, have a go at all the already dead people lying in the ground or burnt in crematoriums who had perfectly healthy organs to help save other people. Sure its selfish of him, but he has the right.

_________________
Image


Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:09 am
Profile WWW
Minor Diety
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm
Posts: 7737
Location: Centre of the sun
Reply with quote
Post 
@ Mole

I hope youre fucking joking. :o

@ Pevil

Organs? What are you on about?

_________________
"Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson


Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:21 am
Profile
Minor Diety
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2003 10:23 am
Posts: 3956
Location: Amsterdam
Reply with quote
Post 
It is quite true though. It's not nice to say it, but the hunger that will arise with too large a world population may be as bad a killer as these epedemics.

What pevster means, is that's he not much more egoistic then the thousands of people buried and cremated over the world with good organs that could have been used for transplants to save lifes.

_________________
Melchett: As private parts to the gods are we: they play with us for their sport!


Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:40 am
Profile
Minor Diety
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm
Posts: 7737
Location: Centre of the sun
Reply with quote
Post 
Thats different, because its much more difficult to actually do.

As for the notion of population control, apparently the population/birth rate in western developing countries is decreasing.


Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:07 pm
Profile
Felix Rex
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm
Posts: 16702
Location: On a slope
Reply with quote
Post 
it's not difficult to do. Every person that dies (in the modern world) typically dies at a hospital. At very least they get transported to a hospital or coroner at some point. Wouldn't be a big deal to hack em open and take whatever still works.

However, that's a gross violation of someone's dignity. Just like forcing someone to donate blood, or become a scientific guineau pig because they may hold the cure to AIDS.

Who makes the decision that something is so important for society that a person's freedoms can be ignored? The government? And where do they draw the line? They may decide that Derf has the perfect genetic structure to participate in Anthrax trials....you get hauled off against your will, stuck in a room, and infected with anthrax. Or ebola. Or some other horrible disease.

_________________
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.


Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:30 pm
Profile WWW
Minor Diety
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm
Posts: 7737
Location: Centre of the sun
Reply with quote
Post 
Firstly, i am speaking in comparative sense. Take the two scenarios:

A = When every human being dies, their organs must be removed to help save millions of lives.

B = 1 person may have the answer to the AIDS cure, we must get it from him to save millions of lives.

Now which one is feasable?

With regards to the rest of your post, i think youre getting too caught up in the politics of it. Where is your humanity? Were talking about saving MILLIONS of peoples lives in sacrifice of one persons freedom. Can you not see the pure maths behind this?


Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:46 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 40 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by STSoftware.