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Women and work (flamebait material)
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16702 Location: On a slope
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because I'm lazy. If anyone feels like doing some post splitting/merging for this thread, please feel free.
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:54 pm |
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RB
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Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2003 1:25 am Posts: 2560
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Unfortunately, now it seem to be too late. The phpBB supports post splitting but not post merging as well.
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:56 pm |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16702 Location: On a slope
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hmmm...yep, think you're right.
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:13 pm |
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pevil
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Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:43 am Posts: 4332
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dammit why did i have to see this topic? hehe. Ok my quick views coz i have to get to work in 10 mins
1. It sucks that Bulgaria is apparently still so poor
2. While I see your point, you can hardly see the women there as 'parasites' if, as you seem to be conveying, all men over there see it as easier for them to get jobs than the women. To my mind (maybe just teh way you wrote it) that sounds like if both a man and a woman were available for the job, the man would be chosen regardless
3. Also kind of weird that you say its easier for a man; in the UK if you were to ask both men and women who would find it easier to get money in times of hardship, they would probably say women; there's always someone willing to pay for sex (and theres awlays a few rich people around above the poor) but there are rarely enough 'real' jobs. Not that prostitution would be good in any way shape or form, and I'd rather try to live off the land
4. Come over to England to see parasites. The number of people who are on the dole for god knows how many years. And the worst of it? They often have more money than the people who are working!
Weird this topic comes up now, about the poor and rich countries (yeah I see it as that more than men vs women after some of the comments) as I've been thinking about reading Ragged Trousered Philanthropists again. heh.
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:27 am |
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RB
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Heh... it would be nice if that would be Bulgaria only, miss. I can tell exact the same for my Serbia. Won't mention Ukraine and Russia (from where women are being shipped to be sold in sex shops in Netherlands, and it is even their own wish, so far I am informed).
Now I speak of students.
Imagine the situation where it is easy to get job, but hard to get your well earned pay for it. You do not have even money to sue the company and if you do that, you will most likely wait years before tribunal ends and few years more, before you get the money, if you get it at all. If you do not, you can always sue the company again, till judge says the case has became too old. Sounds like a funny way to spend your life?
Or if you get good income, you have to spend almost all your day in hard working - at home and at working place. They give you job you cannot accomplish for 8hrs of work a day. And what happens when you're a student? Like everyone else, you will suffer an very greedy schooling system that does not leave you any free resources (strength / time) for any job at all. You have to significally screw your studies and nerves in order to be able to work for income lower than those who only work. The frustrating fact that studying is hard because of lot of stupid and useless work is the story itself.
But why would someone have to have fun with all this when there is one option more: to find someone who will be release of that. He may be having 30-35 or why not 50+ while she has 16-25 or why not 12 (big wtf), but he has exactly that what she do not and - hey, polarities attract theirselves. Well, she may even be lucky enough to attract some Vinnie Gognitti of her age, sponsored by his rich parents.
How ever poor sounds of me even to mention it, older women (30-35,50+) have to be faithful to their husbands because asskick would mean living on the street (after also their face got changed under husband's fist) if she has not money and courage to sue him - story similar to that one with the companies, while Vinnie Gognitties ain't much loved type in any gender really.  The rest are babies and the young ones, who are primarily oriented to their interest group as soon as they realize advantage of their gender. And they realize it early. (see above)
You must be kidding. Speaking about normal job: a poor man earns because it is almost impossible for him to "sell" himself in the way a poor girl can do it. Not because it is easier for him to work and earn. If nature had played with it, giving the girls testosterone instead the boys, the situation would have been oppose I guarantee.
To possibly make this all easier, I will tell I know some girl-students who work here. These girls are zombified - in the way they look and move, mind absent as if they have seen a ghost and ain't to be seen on many classes (but all classes are obligatory and if student isn't there, s/he is at the mercy of professor about getting signature that s/he was there. Without this signature s/he cannot take the exam).
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:32 am |
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Myrddin L'argenton
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Actually I agree with Pev, most of the people with high powered jobs and very well paid ones that are usually professional are, believe it or not, men. Same applies to most things, men find it easier to get jobs than women usually, apart from teaching young children and other jobs which are usually stereotyped like that (although I do admit girls are often better for the child in some cases). However, I can definitely disagree with girls being money minded sometimes. I know a girl that likes me and I'm going to be fairly poor for most of my life as an archaeologist. She still likes me, btw, J, she's from Belgium so my opinion of you lot has gone up a bit.
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:16 pm |
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RB
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Now I read over the both of posts of Pev and Myrddin again.
I think you missed a big deal of conversation - for its largeness or clarity of my English probably. But I'm glad that, basically, we agree with each other.
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:16 am |
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Peltz
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Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2003 1:14 pm Posts: 6422 Location: Estonia
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Get help or go on a vacation
Sex is the oldest commodity in the world, nothing anyone can do about it. And your rant isn't going to change anything either.
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:22 am |
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Myrddin L'argenton
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Nah, I understood a lot of what you were trying to say, however, I was merely putting a comment in about a singular point, not trying to argue the whole of the case.
_________________ I think drugs have done some really good things. If you don't believe me, go home tonight, take all your cassettes, CDs, etc and burn them. Because those artists that have made that music were real fucking high- Bill Hicks
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:24 am |
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RB
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It was rant in the first two posts. After that, it became talk for other's amusement and self-explanation. Not really that I try to change something by chit-chat on this topic. Just wasting my time like everyone else. 
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:51 am |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16702 Location: On a slope
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Nothing about Clankiller.com is a waste of time. 
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:22 am |
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J
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Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2003 12:31 pm Posts: 3343 Location: Belgium
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Mm maybe my opinion on belgians (in particular women) went down now
And yes, this isn't a waste of time. I could be working now, so i'm using this time to delay what i don't want to start with yet.
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:45 am |
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RB
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This topic:
Satis + J wrote ~ 1kB
Mr. Freeman wrote ~ 12kB
Yeah, you two may be really thinking it's not a waste of time. 
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:08 am |
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J
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Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2003 12:31 pm Posts: 3343 Location: Belgium
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Yeah well we need more time to read all the stuff you write so that balances it a (very little) bit.
*original reply*: imagine that we would actually read all that stuff you write, that would take some time
but it was untrue (i have read it) and a bit harsh so i made another reply 
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:52 pm |
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RB
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Well, then I was probably not reading what I write. 
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