I hate politics. Why can't fundamentalists stop what they are doing and be more liberal?
Oh yes I remember its because they are egotistical power crazed bastards. Like Bush in other words

Your policy may be to nuke back, but will you? What does Iran count on?

Thought i'd break out with a poem.


Religion is the single greatest killer,
it is the single greatest fraud,
the single greatest ignorance,
that humanity has endured.
So if you are religious,
speak not to me of science,
speak not to me of war,
and speak not to me of freedom.

I want that in the form of a haiku.

As for nuke-back, I hope so. When it comes to that, you can't be a pansy...either you do it, or you lose deterrence. As much as it would be a waste to kill millions of innocent Iranians, it would be a greater crime to allow deterrence to fail.

Then again, they probably wouldn't nuke a city. The US would probably air-burst over some sort of population-sparse soft target like an oil refinery or something. Minimal casualties, no radiation, but massive damage and the point is made.

Then they might use the old chestnut that Americans can't hit a barn door from point blank range.

God is the worst thing,
in that has ever occurred,
to all us people.

Debateable I say people. Religion is one of the driving spurs of humanity. I think Clive Gamble described Neanderthals as the ultimate atheist. Yeah you can knock it but before you do, consider the things that religion helped to achieve.

absolutely, religion has helped us achieve many things.

The middle ages
the spanish inquisition
the crusades
the holocaust
9/11

Not the holocaust.

Oh, definitely the holocaust...


[quote]"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.â€

But before you start you've got to remember that religion stems from imagination and without imagination to create new things and adapt to our surroundings and even modify them we will lose what makes us human. Besides a social control device it also must be remembered that its likely due to religion that we came to our present state. And before people start saying that religion is the cause of all evil it isn't. Its the people that twist and pervert it to suit their needs. Hitler, Bin Laden, past Popes, the Spanish Inquistion, the list goes on. What people must realise is that most religions actually preach peace, especially Christiainity and Islam, the two most prominent religions. Its people that cause evil.

Religion was made by imagination. Thus, religion is required for imagination. That is a logical fallacy.



Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Some would say our present state is pretty screwed up.



religion gives evil men an excuse to do evil things. Religion gives other people the opportuinity to turn off their analytical minds and just accept things as they are. But, anyway, I'm an atheist, so I see religion as a tool for controlling the masses. People that have faith would see it otherwise. Since we don't really have a common ground, I think I'll stop.

*edit* fixed a formatting problem.

Yeah but my point is that it isn't the philosophy but the person that dictates the choice. I reckon philosophy should be taught to all so that we don't just accept what is going on and actually use our brains for once.

I agree...nothing is dangerous or bad...it's the person that makes it dangerous, or bad. However, I don't see a point in religion at all. But, again, I have a different perspective on things.

I guess religion, likes drugs and guns, can be fun if used responsibly.

The word "fun" can be debateble again in this context