Pig's getting aggressive.

And why should we give it up? Give me a reason why we shouldn't maintain control?

And give me a reason why the treasures of the Vatican shouldn't be moved to the US for safe keeping (we're a nuclear power), proper restoration (we have 300million citizens...certainly we have more people capable of restoring these treasures), and proper display (the vatican has failed to share their treasures for hundreds of years, to the detriment of the human condition).

You don't own the internet. We do. Telling us to give it to you, for free, just because you use it, is stupid.

On the other hand, the Vatican treasures aren't a vital part of world economy.

I have just repeated myself.



Again, lacks a great deal of reasoning. If you consider my above quote, you will see there is an entirely valuable reason.



It is misleading to compare something like treasure to the Internet. Treasure has no way near enough social development value as the Internet. You are comparing something comparatively useless to society to something of multilateral beneficial significance.

mmm how do you own internet?

Internet is evil, so are all ISP companies.

But for your information the capital city of estonia is about to get almost free wlan coverage all over the city. Hey its a shity half meg connection but for 2.50 Eek (our currency, not a scary scream lol ) a month its cool if you dont play games over the net. the sms you send to get your access code costs 2.50 so 1$=13eek roughly, basically its nothing.

Then our bigges island saaremaa is getting either free or the same connection.

I envy your country.

Did anyone listen to my argument. Who exactly cares who owns the internet. Making the internet owned globally allows people many advantages including fairer business (US laws rule supreme on the net) and allows fairer control.

to everyone: we thank the US for its wonderful protocols and whatnot but the internet has longed developed out of their hands. Basically if we would cut all connections between the continents, the local infrastructure would still be operational and we would be cut off only from different continents like us-europe-australia. European countries could still interact with eachother.

There has been no real need for development on the europe side since the US has done such a good job of doing it for the rest of the world but still in my view no one can control internet.

Since all of the international companies rely on internet, it has become impossible to kill it. so basically yes you have created a monster, that has evolved out of your and our control, and basically it has become a god like entity that is immortal, only emp impulses around the globe could kill it but only for a while.

I agree with most of it. However I think it can be good thing that no-one can control it.

Briefly discussed this with Mole last night. It should either be like it is (i.e. no one is prepared to own it enough to be able to be liable for content on it) or countries should own their servers. I.e. if Britain wants to access Americas webpages, they have to pay America to access them. If America wants to access ours in return, you have to pay us.

bleh, I'm tired of arguing it. Thankfully Bush sees it the way I do...the rest of their world can keep their grubby hands off the root DNS servers and the standards groups.

btw, US cities are slowly getting municipal wifi too. Cool stuff. Google is supposed to wifi San Francisco, for instance, and there are several other cities with wifi plans. Soon internet connectivity will be a given, and then I'll implant my big brother chips in all of you and control you remotely. It'll be Rome: Total War for real...muhahaha.

There are always too many rebels in RTW.

I say create a internet tax for anyone outside the US. Kinda of like export the internet services to other countries.

So basically, cement the ownership?

NO TAX, We are already paying too much to ISPs. They should be shot, gutted and draged behind a semi.

Besides internet is becoming everymans right not a possibility.

ISPs charging too much is a country-by-country thing. In the US you can get (dialup) access for $10/month. You can get broadband for $30-$60, depending on a variety of factors. That's less than or equal to cable television or phone service, so I consider that not too bad for another utility.

Countries where they charge you based on your bandwidth...now that's screwed up.

And I hate taxes. Read my taxes, no new lips!