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Rinox
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Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:23 am Posts: 14892 Location: behind a good glass of Duvel
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Nice comeback.  That's a good and fair point, and I can't say I have a proper answer to it. There are some differences imo (it's cumbersome, slow, takes more skill and overall does less damage -unless you use some nice maiming arrows, you wouldn't believe the sorts of arrows they used to make. Ppl get very creative when it comes to killing others  ), but you're right, the original and really only purpose is killing/hurting others. I might have to think that one over.
On the other hand, what you say about assault rifles: selling those was forbidden a while ago in the US right? Last I heard the law was still to be permanently decided on, but I could be wrong. Anyway, just mean: they aren't/weren't hard to get your hands on either, apparently.
And in general? What's an assault rifle? A minigun? An m4? An SMG? I mean, that parts probably comes down to definition. Afaik there are some pretty damn powerful handguns too.
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:06 pm |
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Satis
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Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16702 Location: On a slope
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assault rifles are illegal to purchase without some sort of special license. The law was on the books for awhile, expired, and if I remember correctly was voted back into being again. I could be wrong, though. I don't recall the definition of what an assault rifle is, though. An M-16 is an assault rifle, but my little AR-15-like rifle isn't, it's just a rifle. Could be the ability to fire bursts/auto, but I think there's more to it than just that.
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:18 pm |
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derf
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An assault rifle is basically an automatic rifle, designed light and holding enough ammunition for assault manouvres.
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:07 am |
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Rinox
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Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:23 am Posts: 14892 Location: behind a good glass of Duvel
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An assault rifle is anything that allows me to assault someone. Bring on the spoons!
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:44 am |
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Arathorn
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No, that would be an assault weapon. My guess is that an assault rifle needs to be a rifle. 
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:13 am |
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Rinox
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Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:23 am Posts: 14892 Location: behind a good glass of Duvel
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Down with your abstract semantics!
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:03 am |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16702 Location: On a slope
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from wikipedia:
 |  |  |  | Quote: Definition of Assault Weapon The law created a definition of assault weapon: Certain models (all of which apply to only semi-automatic weapons), such as the Colt AR-15, TEC-9, all Kalashnikovs (including the AK-47), Uzi, and others were banned by name; other firearms were banned for having certain features:
Semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines and two or more of:
folding or telescoping stock conspicuous pistol grip bayonet mount flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one grenade launcher
Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of:
magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or silencer barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold unloaded weight of 50 oz or more a semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm (all but the last pistol feature are found in the pre-ban TEC-9, the probable inspiration for that section of the law)
Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of:
folding or telescoping stock pistol grip capacity of more than 5 rounds detachable magazine On March 2, 2004 (108th Congress, 2nd Session), Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA) added a 10-year extension to the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, Amendment 2637, to S.1805, the Senate's gun manufacturer immunity from liability bill. While the amendment was agreed to by a vote of 52-47, S.1805 picked up several other amendments, and the National Rifle Association withdrew its support of the bill. The sponsor Larry Craig (R-ID) asked for a vote, and S.1805, with the Feinstein Assault Weapon Ban renewal amendment, was voted down 8-90. S.1805 was widely hailed by Democrats as the only viable vehicle for a renewal of the AWB before its expiration. |  |  |  |  |
my rifle is not called an AR-15 (something else, forget what exactly). It has a conspicuous pistol grip, but lacks any second definition. Thus legal. HAH!
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:10 am |
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derf
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Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7737 Location: Centre of the sun
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Is it called the bushmaster?
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:10 am |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16702 Location: On a slope
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:31 am |
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ElevenBravo
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Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:18 pm Posts: 1976 Location: Sexy Town
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See, the problem with people being kill by handguns is this. The people doing the killing stole the handgun. People who legally own handguns and bought them with their own money, 9 times out of 10, have great respect for weapons, people and property.
Now the other people that have guns, they stole them and use them to rob, or threaten, or shoot gang members.
Yes they are dangerous but so are knives, and hammers, and saws, and cars, and electricity.
So, if you legally take handguns away from people, you still have people who illegally have them and you still have the same problem you did, except now its worse because they know all the good people dont have handguns anymore.
I dont own a handgun. Im thinking of saving up to buy one. I dont need it, but its more like a "o shit I need a gun" thing. It would be for that "what if" scenerio.
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:57 pm |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16702 Location: On a slope
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I love my beretta.  I actually really enjoy target shooting. That, to me, was more of a reason to buy the thing than as self protection. If I was really that concerned with protecting myself, I'd have gotten off my ass and gotten my concealed carry license.
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:35 pm |
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ElevenBravo
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Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:18 pm Posts: 1976 Location: Sexy Town
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I cant help but think about this ad when talking about gun control.

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Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:24 am |
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derf
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Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7737 Location: Centre of the sun
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That image lacks a great deal of sense. In reality, the link between mass-murderers and gun control is extreme dictatorship.
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Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:16 pm |
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Rinox
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Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:23 am Posts: 14892 Location: behind a good glass of Duvel
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Former domestic dogs go wolf at night and hunt in packs. That's pretty freaky, and in a way also fascinating....when their existence is in danger they rely on basic instincts rather than what they've been taught.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=4851627
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:07 am |
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StephieMarie
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Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2005 3:04 pm Posts: 142 Location: Tarpon Springs, Fl
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one of my guild mate in star wars galaxies is mia we haven't herd from him since thursday before the storm hit he was packing up some items i'm hoping that he is ok......
but my dad works for the army core of engineers and they sent him there for like 60days he's supposed to take some pictures and send them to me
he'll be helping figure out how to clean up all the waste water
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