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Of course. Falsifiablity is the basic law of thinking behind science, that's also why religion doesn't have any scientific value: it can't be falsified.

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Man, yall are just pulling stuff out your asses now huh? So science is science because it can be falsified? Ive heard everything.


Actually, the existence of something beyond the physical, spirit world, etc and other dimensions, can be experienced and observed. The physical world is only 1% of the seeable', knowable, universe, the other 99% of it lies beyond the five senses.


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ElevenBravo The Great wrote:
Man, yall are just pulling stuff out your asses now huh? So science is science because it can be falsified? Ive heard everything.


To quote Sherlock Holmes
"Once you eliminate the impossible, the possible, however, unlikely remains"
or something like that

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Myrddin L'argenton wrote:
ElevenBravo The Great wrote:
Man, yall are just pulling stuff out your asses now huh? So science is science because it can be falsified? Ive heard everything.


To quote Sherlock Holmes
"Once you eliminate the impossible, the possible, however, unlikely remains"
or something like that


Good point. Thats a good quote but, apply that to scientist and the Mars situation. Without any evidence and really no way of truly finding out yet that water exists on Mars (until they had the technology), how could scientist eliminate the impossible? All they could really do for years was look at Mars through a telescope. How can they eliminate the impossible by only doing that?

If you have no means and no way of determining the impossible then you have no way to find out the possible.


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ElevenBravo The Great wrote:
Man, yall are just pulling stuff out your asses now huh? So science is science because it can be falsified? Ive heard everything.


Actually, the existence of something beyond the physical, spirit world, etc and other dimensions, can be experienced and observed. The physical world is only 1% of the seeable', knowable, universe, the other 99% of it lies beyond the five senses.




I didn't invent that law, y'know....it's a widely accepted philosophical argument. I snatched this of some site, maybe this makes it a little bit clearer:

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What is non-falsifiable does not fit in the realm of science. It can not be proved to be true nor untrue. A number of logicians maintain that no assertion can claim to be true unless it is "falsifiable." They recognize that not every idea can be proven beyond the shadow of a doubt. But if it is the kind of statement that can claim to be true, it must be susceptible--if only hypothetically--to evidence that might disprove it.
It may not be possible to prove that light is the fastest thing in the universe, but if something were found that was faster, the claim would be disproven. A statement such as "light is the consciousness of the universe" not only can't be proven; there is no conceivable way one could come up with evidence against it. It can't be verified, and it can't be falsified. Therefore, strictly speaking, it doesn't make sense, and we don't need to take it seriously.


This is why science can (and must!) disprove its own findings...in a way, it's doomed to do so. It's an interesting philosophical discussion. :)


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And philosophy is the lifeblood of science and everything else.

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